So I always miss the rewatch chats because 7.30 PST is 4.30 am where I live and then I am unfortunately usually asleep, so I thought I would just answer the questions here instead.
First Ichikawa: I have no idea. It is a bit unfair that Ogata always get stuck with the creepy pedo label when Ichikawa also seems a bit too, uh, involved. She has probably known Touya for a long time, but the fangirl thing. I have no idea.
Waya and Touya. Actually I think they sort of explain that in the manga. The very first time Waya sees Touya in the pro exam he is like “oh, he’s the kind of passionless person I don’t like” (at least in the Japanese version, in the fan translation they seem to have skipped the instant dislike bit, I don’t know why. I can’t find my official copy of volume 4 so I can’t say exactly how it was translated there). Anyway, my point about Touya and Waya is that Waya who so desperately want to pass sees everybody else who also desperately wants to pass and then he sees Touya just sitting there like he doesn’t care and isn’t even nervous (which of course is unfair because Touya is depressed since he just got his go heart broken by Hikaru). I think Waya sees it as arrogance; that Touya is so sure that he will pass and that he is above everyone in the room so he doesn’t have to care, and I think that is what really pisses Waya off. That and of course the whole rivalry between the Morishita and the Touya study group. Waya has probably been forced to hear about Touya for as long as he has been playing go (it amuses me infinitely that he is close friends with Hikaru since that is the worst way possible to avoid Touya talk).
I think Hikaru gets away with the lying (at least around Touya) because Hikaru has until now always been a total dumbass around Touya. You can’t really expect Touya to get that Hikaru is playing dumb when saying stupid stuff (like oh insulting the entire go world) is what Hikaru DOES when he meets Touya.
Man, I love that walking away scene. Personally I have always thought that this is the point where the scale tips and Hikaru really starts on the road to Touya and really feels his inadequacy next to Sai. I think it broke his heart that Touya came looking for Sai and has absolutely no respect for Hikaru himself. Seriously if Hikaru go broke Touya’s heart then this is Hikaru getting go dumped by Touya. Sometimes this show is so close to Shoujo manga.
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Date: 2012-06-03 10:27 pm (UTC)First Ichikawa: I have no idea. It is a bit unfair that Ogata always get stuck with the creepy pedo label when Ichikawa also seems a bit too, uh, involved. She has probably known Touya for a long time, but the fangirl thing. I have no idea.
Waya and Touya. Actually I think they sort of explain that in the manga. The very first time Waya sees Touya in the pro exam he is like “oh, he’s the kind of passionless person I don’t like” (at least in the Japanese version, in the fan translation they seem to have skipped the instant dislike bit, I don’t know why. I can’t find my official copy of volume 4 so I can’t say exactly how it was translated there). Anyway, my point about Touya and Waya is that Waya who so desperately want to pass sees everybody else who also desperately wants to pass and then he sees Touya just sitting there like he doesn’t care and isn’t even nervous (which of course is unfair because Touya is depressed since he just got his go heart broken by Hikaru). I think Waya sees it as arrogance; that Touya is so sure that he will pass and that he is above everyone in the room so he doesn’t have to care, and I think that is what really pisses Waya off. That and of course the whole rivalry between the Morishita and the Touya study group. Waya has probably been forced to hear about Touya for as long as he has been playing go (it amuses me infinitely that he is close friends with Hikaru since that is the worst way possible to avoid Touya talk).
I think Hikaru gets away with the lying (at least around Touya) because Hikaru has until now always been a total dumbass around Touya. You can’t really expect Touya to get that Hikaru is playing dumb when saying stupid stuff (like oh insulting the entire go world) is what Hikaru DOES when he meets Touya.
Man, I love that walking away scene. Personally I have always thought that this is the point where the scale tips and Hikaru really starts on the road to Touya and really feels his inadequacy next to Sai. I think it broke his heart that Touya came looking for Sai and has absolutely no respect for Hikaru himself. Seriously if Hikaru go broke Touya’s heart then this is Hikaru getting go dumped by Touya. Sometimes this show is so close to Shoujo manga.