Reread: Volume 3, Overview + Games 17-18
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hikarunogoOkay so I am resolving myself to there being no way my reread posts will be as gr8 as very's epic volume 2 posts. XD AND THAT'S OK.
Spoiler policy for my posts: Not gonna make a separate post for spoilers, just ROT13 them if you talk about future volumes. I use this Firefox add-on to convert to/from ROT13 easily. ETA: Or you can use html to make both the text and background black if you want! That works too. :)
VOLUME 3
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I have the Viz edition, so that's what I'll primarily be working from! I love the cover on this one. Touya looks very cool the way he is stylized here.
Here's the Japanese tankoubon cover for comparison:
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The back cover of the Viz edition provides me with ahorrible helpful summary of the volume so WOW LOOK AT THAT I DON'T EVEN NEED TO WRITE ONE MYSELF. :'D
THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS AND MORE will be revealed in my posts as you read or re-read. :O
(Or, tl;dr, Krim version: LOTS OF SHOTAS IN ABUSIVE GO SITUATIONS)
Ahem. My edition is the first English Viz printing from January 2005, translated into English by Andy Nakatani with redraws/lettering by Adam Symons.
First on the inside cover we have this SUPER CUTE LITTLE OMAKE (using the Japanese one b/c it's in color):
WOW PAIED GO WOW. I DON'T REMEMBER THIS FROM WHEN I READ THE MANGA BEFORE. HOW AMAZING!!! Having people play in pairs and alternating moves but not being allowed to discuss them. WHY AREN'T THERE EIGHT HUNDRED MORE FICS WRITTEN USING THIS IDEA???
Characters who rate character intros this time: Hikaru, Akira, Sai, Touya Meijin, Akari, and Tsutsui. HEY CONGRATS TSUTSUI, YOU GOT TO BE A MAIN CHARACTER THIS TIME INSTEAD OF GETTING DISPLACED BY KAGA AGAIN! Haha.
From the story thus far summary: Wow Viz, who the heck actually uses the word "cutup"? NOT YOUR AUDIENCE OF PRETEENS AND YOUNG TEENAGERS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT! More awkward translations: Kaiou is "favored to win top honors." Uhhhh. Why don't you say they're favored to WIN. I'm shaking my head at you, Viz.
But wait, there's more: "Ths club being in its infancy," really? Also, this blurb is making me think about how I want another AU where Haze tries to pull a fast one at the tournament a second time, this time by having Akari crossdress as a boy or something. [Ed: V GBGNYYL SBETBG GUVF VQRN PBZRF HC YNGRE GUVF IBYHZR unun]
Well, at least this summary tells us this volume will contain Touya's "jealous teammates" trying to "put him in his place," WHICH IS WHAT I SHOWED UP FOR.
LIST OF GAMES IN THIS VOLUME:
Okay, NOW ON TO THE STORY. For this entry I'm doing games 17 and 18 because they form a nice little arc. COINCIDENTALLY THIS ARC ALSO CORRESPONDS TO THIS PART OF THE VOLUME 2 KANZENBAN COVER, from these scans provided byverys:
GAME 17: LEAVE THE GO CLUB!
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Summary: Three of the members of the Kaio Go Club implement their plan to humiliate Touya by forcing him to play blind Go (he's not allowed to look at the board) while cleaning a storage room. Touya goes along with it because he's obsessing over Shindou AS USUAL and wants to prove he's "the best." He beats the first kid, so then they make him play two at a time and he starts sweating and messing up because he's thrown off by dumb mirror-Go-playing-kid's crappy play.
MY COMMENTS + SCANS:
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I guess it's important to edit the Japanese text on the cover of this one random book shown in close-up into English, but every other book and item on these shelves is still left in Japanese, ha.
Also, in a larger omake in this volume, Hotta mentions that the room depicted here is na npghny vey pyho ebbz (abg fgbentr ebbz un) funerq ol obgu n Tb naq Fubhtv pyho. V YBIR GUVF, vg'f fb zrffl naq jnl zber yvxr jung V'q rkcrpg fhpu n ebbz gb ybbx yvxr. Nyfb ybir gur enaqbz boivbhf fubhtv fghss lbh pna frr gbb.
Also Touya looks so little and cute and nonplussed in this last panel. <3
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Touya is just ttly off in his own world daydreaming about CREATING NEW JOSEKI with Shindou (hem hem) and doesn't even notice his senpai dreaming up plots to abuse him behind his back. Love it.
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unf unf that's right Touya, DO EVERYTHING THE UPPERCLASSMEN TELL YOU TO DO *creepy face*
Also on this page (p.13), TO ANY JAPANESE SPEAKERS, I'm curious whether the line "unlike shougi, the go board is very wide" is translated well or not, as it seems to be kind of vague. (Like, I know what they mean, the size of the grid and all, but you could have a Shougi board that was 8x wider than a Go board just by making the grid more spaced out and having bigger pieces haha.)
A RANDOM NOTE: Hikago is lucky/benefits from not having a ton of sfx all the time in the panels. LET ME TELL YOU, AHEM, SPEAKING FROM OOFURI, IT CAN MAKE THINGS WEIRD WHEN YOU TRY TO TRANSLATE THEM ALL INTO ENGLISH. I guess Viz could keep using "FSHHHHHH" all the time though haha.
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Oh Touya, he made you think of Shindou so you had to take the bait, huh? ;p
On page 16 there's a footnote here they took out of the English version, but I bet it's just explaining about how "even game" means no handicaps or whatever.
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"Touya's probably eating dirt right now!" Haha is this a literal translation? If not, WTH VIZ THAT'S SUCH AN AWK TURN OF PHRASE TO USE HERE. Of course now I'm thinking about Touya being forced to eat dirt though sigh. If you're already tying up his hands and feet you may as well take him outside and ground his face down into the mud whilehaving your way with him making him play go, I guess. XD
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There's another footnote taken out of the Viz version here. I wonder if it was explaining what a win by resignation means.
Also, oh look Viz actually left senpai in English this time (with a little explanatory note), ha. VIZ YOUR TRANSLATION DECISIONS BAFFLE ME.
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Such intense art of yelling faces, I love it. <3
Although why is this one goke taller than the other one? IS THAT A THING?
(On the next page the lengths of touya's limbs look kinda wonky.)
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OH TOUYA YOUR FACE IS STARTING TO LOOK DISTRESSED HERE ON P27 AND I LOVE IT
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Omake: From the Japanese I can see that like, one nasal and one syllable were added to this dialogue in the bubble at bottom. But in the Viz version they change nothing so it says "Obata might tweak the dialogue" but there are not apparent tweaks to be seen, ha.
ETA: I found this old upload I had of this scene as done in the anime! So if you want to compare, I have added it in here as well. :3 password = hikago
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AND THAT ENDS GAME 17!!! WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT??? WILL THEY FINALLY ACTUALLY TIE TOUYA UP AND HAVE THEIR WAY WITH HIM??? THE THRILLING CONCLUSION, RIGHT NOW.
GAME 18: IF ONLY YOU WEREN'T HERE
And with this chapter I started doing more resizing of scans in photoshop so I wouldn't have to bother with linking to resizing of them, so they might just be smaller SORRY.
Summary: The dub-con Kaio Go Club plot to bully Touya goes into full swing. Touya sweats on his face and clenches his fists.Tragically Thankfully, Yuri-senpai walks in on this event and cuts the bullying off, giving everyone a firm telling-to. Back at Haze, Shindou recruits Kaneko to the Go Club, but she's in the vollyball club and plus they need a third boy to play in the tournament. They talk about putting up a poster to recruit someone. Returning to Kaio, Kishimoto, the Go Club president, is like "blah blah Touya why did you join the Go Club it's demoralizing everyone" and Touya is like, "ONLY I CAN FACE MY ETERNAL GO RIVAL BOYFRIEND!" Like he does. Krim is left sobbing and pondering the non-con bondage Go Touya gangbang that could have been.
MY COMMENTS + SCANS:
unf unf you mess up Touya's rhythm there
HA, SO IN THIS CHAPTER WE FINALLY GET INTO THAT DUBIOUSLY CONSENSUAL ABUSIVE GO BULLYING, which is like, why very thought I should do this volume haha. I have previously also made a screencap entry about this scene in the anime. Basically, it is what I like to call TOUYA NO GANGBANG.hostilecrayon and I also once had a great conversation about this. IT'S A LITTLE LONG AND A LITTLE PORNY SO I'LL LINK IT OVER ON PASTBIN INSTEAD.
Anyway nowadays I would probably make it a lot more non-con than in that conversation haha. :D
Haha, this kid (Ito? I am way too lazy to remember names of characters who only show up in like three chapters, sorry) is such an S. Love it.
ALSO, LIVING FOR THE OBVIOUS DISTRESS ON TOUYA'S FACE THERE IN THAT SECOND PANEL, WOW!
So then Yuri the senpai shows up, and see, I remember her name, b/c I always lol at senpais named Yuri. XD (ALSO SHE TOTES NEEDS TO HOOK UP WITH TOUYA TOO, AS I STATED IN COMMENTS TO ONE OF THE PREVIOUS VOLUME POSTS!) Anyway Yuri gives Touya a dose of HARSH REALITY:
Damn Touya your hurt face is so beautiful.
But then Yuri-senpai amends,
WHAT A GOOD SENPAI
Right so then we swap back to Haze and I had totes forgotten before re-reading this game that Hikaru did think of that crossdressing idea himself haha, but not with Akari. NICE ONE HIKARU
Then this convo with Touya and Kishimoto, and I was like, "WAIT WASN'T THAT KISHIMOTO BEFORE WITH THE LIGHT HAIR AND GLASSES?? suddenly his hair is dark tho and he looks different. maybe it was a different character or maybe they changed him??? i should rewatch the anime ep of that earlier scene to see if kishimoto is in it."
I WAS CONFUSED B/C EARLIER THERE WAS A DUDE IN THE KAIO GO CLUB AND FOR SOME REASON I THOUGHT IT WAS KISHIMOTO BUT IT TOTALY WASN'T. So I preserved my dumbness here for your entertainment.
And of course Touya closes out Game 18 with his usual BLAH BLAH EPIC GO ROMANCE BLAH
Viz: FWSH
Touya what are your shoes.this manga reread is actually leading me, with my previous pure eternal love for touya's fashion sense, to start side-eying his choices more often OH NO WHAT IS HAPPENING TO ME
THINGS TO DISCUSS IN THE COMMENTS:
-ANYTHING YOU WANT
-COMMENTS ON TRANSLATION CHOICES ESPECIALLY WELCOME BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW JAPANESE!!
-WHAT WOULD BE YOUR FAVORITE WAY FOR TOUYA TO BE GANGBANGED
-THE MOST ENTERTAINING PAIRED GO PAIRINGS YOU CAN THINK OF
Spoiler policy for my posts: Not gonna make a separate post for spoilers, just ROT13 them if you talk about future volumes. I use this Firefox add-on to convert to/from ROT13 easily. ETA: Or you can use html to make both the text and background black if you want! That works too. :)
VOLUME 3
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I have the Viz edition, so that's what I'll primarily be working from! I love the cover on this one. Touya looks very cool the way he is stylized here.
Here's the Japanese tankoubon cover for comparison:
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The back cover of the Viz edition provides me with a
"PRELIMINARY SCRIMMAGE: Akira is beginning a new school year at Kaio Middle School. With his daunting reputation as the Toya Meijin's son, Akira finds he must prove himself to more than a few mean and jealous classmates. And with the help of upperclassman Yrui Hidaka, Akira finds the confidence to persevere in his hunt to beat HIkaru. Meanwhile, Hikaru is having a hard enough time just trying to find a third teammate to play in the Haze Middle School Go Club. A possible teammate arrives in the form of Yuki Mitani — but will he join their club or continue to swindle old timers for their pocket change?"
THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS AND MORE will be revealed in my posts as you read or re-read. :O
(Or, tl;dr, Krim version: LOTS OF SHOTAS IN ABUSIVE GO SITUATIONS)
Ahem. My edition is the first English Viz printing from January 2005, translated into English by Andy Nakatani with redraws/lettering by Adam Symons.
First on the inside cover we have this SUPER CUTE LITTLE OMAKE (using the Japanese one b/c it's in color):
Text: "It's possible to play Go in pairs. Each pair of the team takes alternate turns and you aren't allowed to discuss or tell each other where to move. The interesting part of this is how a strong payer will overcome his weaker teammate's moves. - Hotta Yumi"
Sai: Oh! She's playing there?!
Touya: If I were playing next, I would...
Hikaru: Hmm...
WOW PAIED GO WOW. I DON'T REMEMBER THIS FROM WHEN I READ THE MANGA BEFORE. HOW AMAZING!!! Having people play in pairs and alternating moves but not being allowed to discuss them. WHY AREN'T THERE EIGHT HUNDRED MORE FICS WRITTEN USING THIS IDEA???
Characters who rate character intros this time: Hikaru, Akira, Sai, Touya Meijin, Akari, and Tsutsui. HEY CONGRATS TSUTSUI, YOU GOT TO BE A MAIN CHARACTER THIS TIME INSTEAD OF GETTING DISPLACED BY KAGA AGAIN! Haha.
From the story thus far summary: Wow Viz, who the heck actually uses the word "cutup"? NOT YOUR AUDIENCE OF PRETEENS AND YOUNG TEENAGERS, I CAN TELL YOU THAT! More awkward translations: Kaiou is "favored to win top honors." Uhhhh. Why don't you say they're favored to WIN. I'm shaking my head at you, Viz.
But wait, there's more: "Ths club being in its infancy," really? Also, this blurb is making me think about how I want another AU where Haze tries to pull a fast one at the tournament a second time, this time by having Akari crossdress as a boy or something. [Ed: V GBGNYYL SBETBG GUVF VQRN PBZRF HC YNGRE GUVF IBYHZR unun]
Well, at least this summary tells us this volume will contain Touya's "jealous teammates" trying to "put him in his place," WHICH IS WHAT I SHOWED UP FOR.
LIST OF GAMES IN THIS VOLUME:
Game English Title (Viz) Original Title 17 Leave the Go Club! 囲碁部をでてけよ！ 18 If Only You Weren't Here アンタさえいなけりゃ 19 ¥1,000 a Game 一局千円/a> 20 The Third Member ３人目のメンバー 21 A Very Despicable Act 最も卑劣な行為 22 Hon'inbo Shusaku 本因坊秀策 23 Kimihiro's Concern 筒井の懸念 24 Kaio's Third 海王の三将 25 Preliminary Scrimmage 前哨戦
Okay, NOW ON TO THE STORY. For this entry I'm doing games 17 and 18 because they form a nice little arc. COINCIDENTALLY THIS ARC ALSO CORRESPONDS TO THIS PART OF THE VOLUME 2 KANZENBAN COVER, from these scans provided by
verys:GAME 17: LEAVE THE GO CLUB!
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Summary: Three of the members of the Kaio Go Club implement their plan to humiliate Touya by forcing him to play blind Go (he's not allowed to look at the board) while cleaning a storage room. Touya goes along with it because he's obsessing over Shindou AS USUAL and wants to prove he's "the best." He beats the first kid, so then they make him play two at a time and he starts sweating and messing up because he's thrown off by dumb mirror-Go-playing-kid's crappy play.
MY COMMENTS + SCANS:
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I guess it's important to edit the Japanese text on the cover of this one random book shown in close-up into English, but every other book and item on these shelves is still left in Japanese, ha.
Also, in a larger omake in this volume, Hotta mentions that the room depicted here is na npghny vey pyho ebbz (abg fgbentr ebbz un) funerq ol obgu n Tb naq Fubhtv pyho. V YBIR GUVF, vg'f fb zrffl naq jnl zber yvxr jung V'q rkcrpg fhpu n ebbz gb ybbx yvxr. Nyfb ybir gur enaqbz boivbhf fubhtv fghss lbh pna frr gbb.
Also Touya looks so little and cute and nonplussed in this last panel. <3
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Touya is just ttly off in his own world daydreaming about CREATING NEW JOSEKI with Shindou (hem hem) and doesn't even notice his senpai dreaming up plots to abuse him behind his back. Love it.
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unf unf that's right Touya, DO EVERYTHING THE UPPERCLASSMEN TELL YOU TO DO *creepy face*
Also on this page (p.13), TO ANY JAPANESE SPEAKERS, I'm curious whether the line "unlike shougi, the go board is very wide" is translated well or not, as it seems to be kind of vague. (Like, I know what they mean, the size of the grid and all, but you could have a Shougi board that was 8x wider than a Go board just by making the grid more spaced out and having bigger pieces haha.)
A RANDOM NOTE: Hikago is lucky/benefits from not having a ton of sfx all the time in the panels. LET ME TELL YOU, AHEM, SPEAKING FROM OOFURI, IT CAN MAKE THINGS WEIRD WHEN YOU TRY TO TRANSLATE THEM ALL INTO ENGLISH. I guess Viz could keep using "FSHHHHHH" all the time though haha.
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Oh Touya, he made you think of Shindou so you had to take the bait, huh? ;p
On page 16 there's a footnote here they took out of the English version, but I bet it's just explaining about how "even game" means no handicaps or whatever.
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"Touya's probably eating dirt right now!" Haha is this a literal translation? If not, WTH VIZ THAT'S SUCH AN AWK TURN OF PHRASE TO USE HERE. Of course now I'm thinking about Touya being forced to eat dirt though sigh. If you're already tying up his hands and feet you may as well take him outside and ground his face down into the mud while
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There's another footnote taken out of the Viz version here. I wonder if it was explaining what a win by resignation means.
Also, oh look Viz actually left senpai in English this time (with a little explanatory note), ha. VIZ YOUR TRANSLATION DECISIONS BAFFLE ME.
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Such intense art of yelling faces, I love it. <3
Although why is this one goke taller than the other one? IS THAT A THING?
(On the next page the lengths of touya's limbs look kinda wonky.)
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OH TOUYA YOUR FACE IS STARTING TO LOOK DISTRESSED HERE ON P27 AND I LOVE IT
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Omake: From the Japanese I can see that like, one nasal and one syllable were added to this dialogue in the bubble at bottom. But in the Viz version they change nothing so it says "Obata might tweak the dialogue" but there are not apparent tweaks to be seen, ha.
ETA: I found this old upload I had of this scene as done in the anime! So if you want to compare, I have added it in here as well. :3 password = hikago
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AND THAT ENDS GAME 17!!! WHAT WILL HAPPEN NEXT??? WILL THEY FINALLY ACTUALLY TIE TOUYA UP AND HAVE THEIR WAY WITH HIM??? THE THRILLING CONCLUSION, RIGHT NOW.
GAME 18: IF ONLY YOU WEREN'T HERE
And with this chapter I started doing more resizing of scans in photoshop so I wouldn't have to bother with linking to resizing of them, so they might just be smaller SORRY.
Summary: The dub-con Kaio Go Club plot to bully Touya goes into full swing. Touya sweats on his face and clenches his fists.
MY COMMENTS + SCANS:
unf unf you mess up Touya's rhythm there
HA, SO IN THIS CHAPTER WE FINALLY GET INTO THAT DUBIOUSLY CONSENSUAL ABUSIVE GO BULLYING, which is like, why very thought I should do this volume haha. I have previously also made a screencap entry about this scene in the anime. Basically, it is what I like to call TOUYA NO GANGBANG.
hostilecrayon and I also once had a great conversation about this. IT'S A LITTLE LONG AND A LITTLE PORNY SO I'LL LINK IT OVER ON PASTBIN INSTEAD.Anyway nowadays I would probably make it a lot more non-con than in that conversation haha. :D
Haha, this kid (Ito? I am way too lazy to remember names of characters who only show up in like three chapters, sorry) is such an S. Love it.
ALSO, LIVING FOR THE OBVIOUS DISTRESS ON TOUYA'S FACE THERE IN THAT SECOND PANEL, WOW!
So then Yuri the senpai shows up, and see, I remember her name, b/c I always lol at senpais named Yuri. XD (ALSO SHE TOTES NEEDS TO HOOK UP WITH TOUYA TOO, AS I STATED IN COMMENTS TO ONE OF THE PREVIOUS VOLUME POSTS!) Anyway Yuri gives Touya a dose of HARSH REALITY:
Damn Touya your hurt face is so beautiful.
But then Yuri-senpai amends,
WHAT A GOOD SENPAI
Right so then we swap back to Haze and I had totes forgotten before re-reading this game that Hikaru did think of that crossdressing idea himself haha, but not with Akari. NICE ONE HIKARU
Then this convo with Touya and Kishimoto, and I was like, "WAIT WASN'T THAT KISHIMOTO BEFORE WITH THE LIGHT HAIR AND GLASSES?? suddenly his hair is dark tho and he looks different. maybe it was a different character or maybe they changed him??? i should rewatch the anime ep of that earlier scene to see if kishimoto is in it."
I WAS CONFUSED B/C EARLIER THERE WAS A DUDE IN THE KAIO GO CLUB AND FOR SOME REASON I THOUGHT IT WAS KISHIMOTO BUT IT TOTALY WASN'T. So I preserved my dumbness here for your entertainment.
And of course Touya closes out Game 18 with his usual BLAH BLAH EPIC GO ROMANCE BLAH
Viz: FWSH
Touya what are your shoes.
THINGS TO DISCUSS IN THE COMMENTS:
-ANYTHING YOU WANT
-COMMENTS ON TRANSLATION CHOICES ESPECIALLY WELCOME BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW JAPANESE!!
-WHAT WOULD BE YOUR FAVORITE WAY FOR TOUYA TO BE GANGBANGED
-THE MOST ENTERTAINING PAIRED GO PAIRINGS YOU CAN THINK OF
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Date: 2013-06-04 06:53 pm (UTC)Man, I wish there was a newsletter!! Just look how useful it is for him to have people yelling in his face. Obviously this is exactly what he needs!!